saccharine trust interview
"we got power" (1981)


Saccharine Trust was interviewed at SST Studios previous to their tour w/ Black Flag.

Earl Liberty- bass
Jack Brewer- tenor
Rob Holtzman- drums
Joe Baiza- guitar
 

 WGP:

  What records are you guys on?
    Earl:   Cracks In The Sidewalk, Chunks, and Future Looks Bright...
Jack:   Yeah, we only do compilations!  We know people will hear us.  Our own album is coming out soon.

 WGP:

  Who are your influences?

Jack:

  We don't like each other's music.  We don't even like each other!! (laughs)

 Oliver:

  What happened to your old bass player and drummer?

 Jack:

  Our drummer and bassist left on good terms.  Our bassist quit 'cause he really wasn't into it anymore.

 WGP:

  How did you find Earl?

 Earl:

  Rob joined first.  Rob met Joe at Polish hall, the night they had that big riot.

Rob:   I was drunk in the parking lot and they found me and said, "hey, hey, you're a drummer!" (laughter) Then I said," yeah I'll
  practice with you."  But I didn't really want to, but I was drunk!
 Earl:   I'd hang out at the practices and was familiar with the stuff.  When the bass player quit, they asked me to join.  It's pretty
  easy.
    WGP:   What about the tatoo on your arm (an "S" shaped snake nailed on a "T" shaped cross, their logo).
   Earl:   I got this after I got out of the hospital.  I wanted a tatoo and I coudn't think of anything better to put on my arm.

WGP:

  So tell us about  your accident...

Earl:

  This party with Black Flag in Carson.  Cops came and broke it up.  One of the cops asked me if I knew the girls whose house
    it was, went out front, tried to look for her.  Cops out front told me to go home.  My ride was in the backyard.  One cop put
    a stick in my stomach.  The two other cops came up and started pulling out their night sticks, so I ran for it.  It was a dead
    end street.  I jumped a brick wall and hit a fence behind that, and fell 20 feet.  Broke my leg.  Knocked my teeth out.
    Opened up a hole in my jaw. (Talk goes to lighter subjects)

   WGP:

  How did you guys do in Frisco?

 Rob:

  Burned!
 Earl:   Fuckin' great!
  Joe:   I think we did okay.
 Jack:   We were more energetic.
 WGP:   What about your tour?
  Earl:   The tours gonna be mostly on the east coast w/ Flag.
Jordan:   Are you guys gonna be on Saturday Night Live? (laughter)
 Earl:   Black Flag is supposed to be on Saturday Night Live. (Talk goes on about Jimmy Mack Theatre)
    Joe:    We had parties there.
   Earl:   Me and Joe lived there.  Our rent was to keep the place clean.
   Joe:   It turned into a hangout.

 Jack:

  We had two really good parties there.  Kids knocked holes in the walls, you could even spraypaint!

 Joe:

  We got kicked out 'cause the manager owner lady came walking in one night and say people crashed out all over the      
    place, beer bottles...
  WGP:   What are your favorite bands?
 Jack:   Salvation Army, Descendents, and the Minutemen.
 Earl:   Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, jazz fusion.  I wanna play jazz fusion.
 Jack:   I wanna raise great danes.
 

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